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some questions on making CG
« on: September 16, 2018, 05:10:52 AM »
please guide me :

1- can i use gold in both poles(anode and cathode)?

2- as i want to make my first batch of CG with this method :

(( 40ppm (approx) Colloidal Gold, Electrolysis I
250 ml hot distilled water
100 mg sodium chloride (table salt ok, NOT sea salt)
110 mg trisodium citrate monohydrate
Pure gold anode, copper cathode.
1 ml Cinnamon Extract
Electrolyze with 350 milliamp current for 25 to 30 minutes
Constant stirring and heat required...

so my question is that  i must first  solve [sodium chloride+trisodium citrate+Cinnamon Extract ] and then turn on power ?
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Re: some questions on making CG
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2018, 07:56:48 AM »
Yes, you can use gold for both electrodes.  It is unnecessary, but you can do it.

All the chemicals have to be in the water and dissolved before powering the electrodes.
Colloidal Silver is only a bargain if you make it yourself.

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Re: some questions on making CG
« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2018, 05:28:03 AM »
it is necessary to keep water nearv to boil all time of process ? what is maintenance temp approximately ?
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Re: some questions on making CG
« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2018, 07:16:08 AM »
Yes.  A good way to judge is that you should have bubbles on the bottom of the flask which do not break the surface of the water.  I think cooks call this a 'simmer'.
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Re: some questions on making CG
« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2018, 12:51:10 PM »
thanks
i made my first CG batch with laser test
so:
gold as positive and copper as negative
15 volt/DC 1 amp
deionozed instead distilled water
color change  very rapid( almost in 8 minutes)
so can i take it now?
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Re: some questions on making CG
« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2018, 01:00:35 PM »
Yes.  It is the correct color.  Should not have a metallic taste, but might taste a little salty.
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Re: some questions on making CG
« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2018, 01:19:05 PM »
i am worry because voltage was less and amp was bigger than as mentioned in protocol and all of proccess completed in about 8 minutes.
nevertheless can i take that?
 

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Re: some questions on making CG
« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2018, 01:25:41 PM »
Yes, you can.
Colloidal Silver is only a bargain if you make it yourself.

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Re: some questions on making CG
« Reply #8 on: September 18, 2018, 01:28:39 PM »
thanks a lot dear kephra

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Re: some questions on making CG
« Reply #9 on: September 20, 2018, 05:03:40 AM »
Based on above protocol if i want to produce higher concentration of CG (ie  200 ppm) so what parameters must multiplied?
 my guess : 1250 cc water+ 500 mg Nacl+ 550 mg sodium citrate + 5 cc cinammon extract . that's right?
- what about electric parameters?

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Re: some questions on making CG
« Reply #10 on: September 20, 2018, 06:07:26 AM »
No, that will not work.  About 40 ppm is the maximum you can make with electrolysis before it becomes unstable and falls out of solution,
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Re: some questions on making CG
« Reply #11 on: September 20, 2018, 06:25:24 AM »
so what is your recommend protocol for higher ppm?

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Re: some questions on making CG
« Reply #12 on: September 20, 2018, 07:00:40 AM »
Forget electrolysis and start with gold chloride.  That makes the best quality CG.
Use 20ml 1% gold chloride from Salt Lake Metals.
Use 1 ml of 1 Molar sodium carbonate solution per liter of water.
Use 1 ml or more Karo Light corn syrup per liter.*
Use 2 grams of animal based gelatin per liter.*
Heat to 90C.

*You will probably need to experiment with these values.
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Re: some questions on making CG
« Reply #13 on: September 20, 2018, 08:52:07 AM »
but my country is under international sanctions so can't buy any kind of brand materials (gold chloride from Salt Lake Metals and ...)
any suggestion?

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Re: some questions on making CG
« Reply #14 on: September 20, 2018, 11:48:17 AM »
Use 40 ppm, just take 5 times as much.
Ppm is not important, milligrams of gold (or silver) is what is important.
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