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Cher Sherwood:
I am ready to place my order to buy a SilverTron Elite V3. I feel I have read the first four pinned articles enough times that I now understand what I should be buying. So other than The SilverTron Elite V3, I need to buy a heating stirrer, a mason jar, reducing agent, a scale, steam distilled water and a ppm tester. Is this everything I need? I have been researching for so long that I think it's time to just buy the equipment and start. I want to follow everything Kephra suggests to the T.

Am I forgetting any pieces of equipment? Do you see the benefit of buying a steam distiller as well? Does the SilverTron Elite V3 come with something to hold the silver in the proper place, like a lid?

I'm excited to get started and I feel confident doing "V) Electrolysis Combined with a Reducing Agent" is the best method.

Any advice for this newbie is appreciated. Especially when it comes to buying the beginning equipment.
Thanks,
Cher

Art:
Cher,

Your shopping list seems pretty complete. You said a parts per million tester as part of your list, did you mean a Total Dissolved Solids (TDS) meter? If so, that would be optional as it is only used to make sure that your distilled water that you start with is zero or very close to it. The TDS meter can not measure the PPM of the colloidal silver....at least not accurately and with the Elite, you already know what your PPM will be since you use the soft touch screen to adjust the PPM and batch size to whatever you want. A distiller is only needed if you plan to make your own distilled water and that would likely depend on where you are. In the states, a gallon of distilled water can be had for less than a dollar, but other parts of the world may be significantly more, making a distiller more practical. Also, if you plan to make mostly 320 ppm colloidal silver, you will use only minimal amounts of distilled water compared to 20 ppm colloidal silver. The magnetic stirrer/hot plate is a must for making high PPM silver nanoparticles and or running at high milliamp settings.

For myself, I opted for a basic beaker set from Amazon. I think it was between $20 and $30 if I remember correctly. I like it because the openings make it easier to clean than a mason jar. I use the one liter and 500 ml beaker to make 20 ppm colloidal silver and I use the 250 ml beaker to make 320 ppm colloidal silver which is what I use the most. The borosilate glass can also take more extreme temperature changes than the mason jars without cracking. I did crack one mason jar when I poured colloidal silver in it that was too hot.  I did buy various size mason jars, but I use them for storage only.

Yes, the V.3 Elite comes with an electrode holder that is predilled for proper electrode spacing and doubles as a lid .

One thing I always recommend is to upgrade to a one ounce silver bar over a silver wire or rod. The bar, because of its relatively large surface area is more efficient than the wires and in conjunction with your hot plate/magnetic stirrer will allow you to run your batches as high as 15 ma which will equate to shorter run times and a very good quality finished product. The silver bar also lasts a very long time compared to the wires.

I did not see Arm and Hammer Washing Soda on your list. You will need a box of that to make your electrolyte solution and a bottle of Karo light syrup to make your reducer. Lastly, if you plan to make high parts per million colloidal silver such as 320 ppm, you will also need Knox Gelatin in the small packets to use as a capping agent.

If you have other questions, just post them and they will get answered.

Art

kephra:
Cher,

I think most people buy the SH-2 hotplate/stirrer found on Amazon. It is sold under various trade names. 

Cher Sherwood:
Thank you so much Art for taking the time to reply with all that info! Thank you Kephra as well! I really appreciate it!

Yes, thank you for the reminder about the washing soda. I do have unflavoured gelatine in my cupboard. I also have corn syrup in my cupboard. Would that work? Or does it need to be Karo syrup? That isn't a brand sold in Canada that I have seen. I do see it on Amazon though. Do you think the name brand really matters?

I do like the idea of upgrading to a one ounce silver bar. I will investigate that because now I am wondering if you use 2 silver bars to replace both silver rods or just one. I am wondering where to source that out and approximately how much that costs. I am in Canada.

Thank you for the heads up about the beakers on Amazon too. I found them. I had forgotten that I had read that mason jars can break from the heat.

I was actually mistaken about the PPM meter vs the TDS meter. I would have bought the wrong thing! I am leery of the quality of steam distilled water as it is the foundation of the product. I plan on using it to test the distilled water I can buy in the store (and judge from there if I need to look into buying my own steam distiller). I hope the quality will be fine. I live in a small town so I'm crossing my fingers. Does the SilverTron Elite have any way to measure if your water is poor quality? I know some generators just won't start if the water quality is poor.

Thank you so much for your replies. I have everything in my carts on Amazon and the SilverTron store. I just need to look into the silver bars and decide about the TDS meter.

I do have one more question about ppm. If you mainly make 320 ppm colloidal silver, do you dilute that to drink? Do you chose that ppm because you dilute it and it stretches it out further or is there a specific purpose for each different ppm batch?

Thank you so much!
Cher



kephra:

--- Quote from: Cher Sherwood on March 12, 2018, 12:52:53 PM ---... I also have corn syrup in my cupboard. Would that work? Or does it need to be Karo syrup? That isn't a brand sold in Canada that I have seen.

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A different brand will probably work fine.  Golden syrup is also an option.

--- Quote ---I do like the idea of upgrading to a one ounce silver bar. I will investigate that because now I am wondering if you use 2 silver bars to replace both silver rods or just one. I am wondering where to source that out and approximately how much that costs. I am in Canada.  Almost any coin dealer should have silver bullion bars.  You would need to attach a pure silver lead wire to it.  With the ones I sell, I weld the lead wire to the bar.

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You only want one silver bar for the anode.  Using a silver bar for both electrodes is actually detrimental.

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 Does the SilverTron Elite have any way to measure if your water is poor quality? I know some generators just won't start if the water quality is poor.

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The SilverTrons do not have the ability to measure water quality.  To do so would require very accurately made electrodes.

--- Quote ---... I do have one more question about ppm. If you mainly make 320 ppm colloidal silver, do you dilute that to drink? Do you chose that ppm because you dilute it and it stretches it out further or is there a specific purpose for each different ppm batch?

Thank you so much!
Cher

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For internal use, the 320 ppm should be diluted.  1 tablespoon to 8 ounces of water.  For external use, you can use it full strength.

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