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Colloidal Silver Production / Re: Colds and colloidal silver
« Last post by Bobby on Today at 05:04:30 PM »
Art and FromTheDen,

  My wife got into the same trouble as you guys.  She started out as allergies but quickly went to a sinus infection.  She had been using 20ppm colloidal silver in a nasal sprayer every other day for a couple years, but got lazy about taking it in August. Then the allergies started hitting her in September and she got worse about a week ago.  I had to tell her she wasn’t using her colloidal silver lately.  2-3 days and she was bad!  I switched her 20 ppm to 40ppm when it was going the sinus infection way.  It is so dry around here plus the heater sucking out all the moisture in the air really wreaks havoc on the sinuses. But it’s now 2 1/2 days later and she is about 75% well.

  Maybe it’s what causes the allergies to start with that’s different now. The weather is all screwy here.

  Art, I don’t remember exactly where you live in California, but you got all the fires and then there is whatever is coming in off the Pacific Ocean from Fukushima.  Or maybe even from the ground with all the increased fracking. Maybe use some 20ppm in a netti pot. 

 FromTheDen it might help you too. But I’m going to definitely pick up some HHT to have on hand.

 I usually jump in the shower and let the steam work on the head awhile then blow it all out. I know gross, but it makes it easier for the colloidal silver to get to where it needs to be.  But I’m getting a bit paranoid about steam in the shower because of what might be in my well water now from all the fracking.  You know it’s going to get in the water supply eventually.

Bobby
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Colloidal Silver Production / Re: Requesting help.
« Last post by Dean on Today at 01:29:16 PM »
Rettan,

Making up your gelatine ahead of time is not a bad thing in fact Kephra has a recipe for it in the articles but I have to say I haven't done it with IS. Only with 20ppm reduced. The point being, to have the "extra shelf life" for the gelatine solution because it's been made with colloidal silver and not just pre-mixed in distilled water. This is just a time saving routine though for when needing to cap an existing batch of "non-capped" silver. (for instance, some 40ppm karo reduced but then want to take it internally so would THEN cap it with my "stored" bottle of already made up gelatine). It sounds like you have made this as part of your initial production which seems "out of sync" with the usual processes described generally.

Then you have moved on to adding your sodium. I'm not sure this has any value or reduces your process time any.
The point of the sodium is to control the production of your IS and keep it consistent during the "creation" of it.
Remember it is there to raise the PH slightly, provide conductivity and stop the IS from plating to the cathode DURING the electrolysis.
I'm not sure that adding it after you already have your IS will benefit the process or the final product. (Unless I've misunderstood your process)

Regarding heat, I now actively look to keep heat to below 40 c for all but my 320ppm batches (where I let it steadily rise from 30 degrees to a final temp of about 75 - 80 degrees. and ALWAYS allow it to rise steadily from start to finish. This is 2-fold for me. 1, I don't get any significant evaporation right through the entire 5 hours or so of electrolysis and also, there is no significant "shock' going on where I have observed more turbid results when excessive heat is applied right off the bat. (Too much heat seems to allow reduction to happen almost too quickly!)

Also, if you are making 20ppm, you really don't need any heat at all. Once you're IS complete you can add your sugar and leave it be. The reduction will be slower granted but if time is not of the essence then this may yield a better result for you.
Heating will speed things up but you may find that your significant colour change is indicating a bigger particle (That orangey tint you describe)

Be mindful of due process and the tested methods that really do work. Experimenting is essential and power to you for "doing your own thing"
so my only real thoughts to help / contribute to your post are.....

Remember that doing things in a different order may mean that you prevent something else from happening when it should. If you stick to the solid foundation processes here you should always get a good batch.

Also, doing things out of step may end up making it hard to identify any real underlying issues that may be present.
(incorrectly mixed sodium was my nemesis at the start) By doing loads of things differently all at once, you'll find it much harder to trouble shoot.

Hope this helps


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Colloidal Silver Production / Re: Colds and colloidal silver
« Last post by FromTheDen on Today at 08:54:51 AM »
And the flip side to hyperthermia is cold. Consider Wim Hof, https://www.wimhofmethod.com/ & https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wim_Hof.
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Colloidal Silver Production / Re: Colds and colloidal silver
« Last post by cfnisbet on Today at 06:55:28 AM »
colloidal silver is a wonderful thing for bacteria and some primitive yeasts, but for viral illness, it needs to be taken for longer periods because colds are viruses.

All virii hide or are replicated inside mammalian cells, so they have to be caught in the open, in order to be destroyed. Although colloidal silver is wonderful, I prefer Vitamin C and D for viral illness.

The very best treatment for viral illness is hyperthermia treatment, but it is very dangerous and awkward to use in practice. The only time I got rid of a cold completely within a few hours, was by this method. If I had a life threatening viral infection or diffused form of cancer, I would use this method.
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Colloidal Silver Production / Re: Colds and colloidal silver
« Last post by Art on Yesterday at 05:50:52 PM »
If it were me, I would take 10000 iu of Vitamin D3 for at least a week.

cfnisbet,
Thank you for the idea.
I take 10,000iu/d per day as part of my supplement regimen along with zinc among others. Colds generally are a little rough to me and I guess I was feeling that colloidal silver was my silver bullet against colds, but apparently not every time.

Art
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Colloidal Silver Production / Re: Requesting help.
« Last post by Rettan on Yesterday at 10:10:23 AM »
Ok thank you :)
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Colloidal Silver Production / Re: Requesting help.
« Last post by kephra on Yesterday at 10:06:25 AM »
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Could It be because the gelatin made the already formed 10 ppm IS to clump together making the colloids bigger and causing them to shift in color, to darker and more of a reddish tint?
No, gelatin will not make the 10 ppm clump or agglomerate.
Gelatin does have the effect of making the solution look darker though.  Lab testing shows that gelatin makes the particle size smaller, about 10nm.  It also greatly slows the reactions, so it takes a lot more time for the color to develop.
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Colloidal Silver Production / Re: Colds and colloidal silver
« Last post by FromTheDen on Yesterday at 09:45:54 AM »
I'm in the same camp as Art. When I've had a cold in the past it's often gone on for a couple weeks. Maybe sometimes there's some progression to a sinus infection, but I don't think so.

I often forget about the ultrasonic humidifier & just rely on drinking a liter+ of colloidal silver. At the end of November I was kind of sinusy (sinus headache with a little drainage) from allergies & it progressed into being fully stuffed up. On Friday I started on colloidal silver. The stuffiness (especially at night) continued through the weekend. I often add in Hyssop Health Therapy (http://www.celazomeskin.com/products/68/Hyssop-Health-Therapy.aspx), but we were out of town for Thanksgiving, so I couldn't. I did so when I got home & by Monday night I was breathing clearly. The Hyssop Health is not cheap, but they have 15% off through the end of the month. Maybe it was just the change in location from Virginia to Texas, but allergies don't normally make me stuffed up.
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Colloidal Silver Production / Re: Requesting help.
« Last post by Rettan on Yesterday at 09:42:20 AM »
I had an interesting experience with bought 10ppm ionic silver. I used this product instead of distilled/deionized water when i tried to produce high ppm colloidal silver. This is what happened:

I used 500 ml of said product, dissolved 1/2 tablespoon of gelatin in it. Then heated it with a double-boiler to like 80-85 degrees Celcius, I wanted closer to boiling point but couldnt without a lid, and a lid would have prevented the electrodes.

Then when it was dissolved I put in 53 mg of sodiumcarbonate (Using an accurate scale) and some glucose syrup (about the volume specified in your silvertron manual+ some extra for safety). I might have made a mistake here, because the gelatin wasnt fully dissolved yet when I added the sodiumcarbonate + glucose syrup, dont know if this matters.

Usually when i make 20 ppm ionic colloidal silver and then reduce it with glucose syrup the shift in color will begin already at maybe 40 degrees C, and then be complete at 50-55 C.

Since I had used my store bought 10ppm IS (which I have reduced as it is on earlier occasions just to check if it really was silver in it) I expected to see a color change in the interval of about 50 degrees C when i started heating the solution, (still hadnt put in the electrodes at this time).

Strangely I didnt see any difference in color at 60 degress C, so I put in more sodiumcarbonate (about another 53mg, thinking the pH was wrong), I also added some more syrup (about doubling that too), still nothing happening at 60 degrees.

Then when it reached 65-70+ degrees C, it started to change color fast, and it became much darker  (with a little reddish tint) than what the same product (10 ppm bought IS) had been when i reduced it without gelatin on earlier occasions, also without gelatin it turned light transparant yellow at about 50-55 degrees C.

I then continued at about 80-85 degrees C to put in the electrodes and had them going for 40 minutes at 15 volts and 15 mA (have bars for electrodes).

The solution now went very dark. But according to my brief calculations in my head, the solution should only be 80-90 ppm (due to the 10pp already in the IS from the beginning)

My question is:
Was it due to the gelatin that the product changed color at a much higher temperature, and then became very dark (a little reddish actually). Let me remind you, this was only 10ppm bought IS (which I have reduced from the bottle to make very light yellow colored product before) but it looked like 80 from the pictures I've seen here. So before I even put in the electrodes the solution already looked like a 80ppm (albeit a little more red) solution from this site. Could It be because the gelatin made the already formed 10 ppm IS to clump together making the colloids bigger and causing them to shift in color, to darker and more of a reddish tint?
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Colloidal Silver Production / Re: Colds and colloidal silver
« Last post by cfnisbet on Yesterday at 09:37:21 AM »
If it were me, I would take 10000 iu of Vitamin D3 for at least a week.
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