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Colloidal Gold Production / Re: Question on Gold Electrolysis III Method
« Last post by kephra on April 08, 2024, 02:20:04 PM »Yes, you need heat and stirring for gold electrolysis.
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Colloidal Silver Production / Re: Help!!!!!!
« Last post by Pemf silver on April 08, 2024, 01:21:36 PM »That will not work , need the LM317 Circuit
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Colloidal Gold Production / Question on Gold Electrolysis III Method
« Last post by aquataur on April 08, 2024, 12:57:59 PM »I just noticed that Methods I and II explicitly ask for "constant stirring and heat", whereas Method III does not.
Does this mean that this method does not need this? I made several searches but did not find the answer for that.
Thanks.
Does this mean that this method does not need this? I made several searches but did not find the answer for that.
Thanks.
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Colloidal Silver Production / Help!!!!!!
« Last post by The-Silver-Secret on April 08, 2024, 06:13:42 AM »Will a Zk-4kx step down work for the generator or do I need the lm317? Plleease help!!!
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Colloidal Silver Production / Re: Colloidal Silver : Is this color usual ?
« Last post by The-Silver-Secret on April 08, 2024, 05:56:16 AM »How do you know the voltage is going up after a time?
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Colloidal Silver Production / Interesting Phenomenon: Colloidal Silver contacts semi-precious gem and changes colour
« Last post by aquataur on April 07, 2024, 08:00:07 PM »I gave a bottle of my now perfect 20 ppm colloidal silver to a friend. She poured the liquid into a small glass, and her cat was very much interested in it and licked out of it. That was considered not normal.
She is very cat-o-phil and thought her cat needs some to she puts a little into the cat´s water bowl, where she keeps a shungite (semi precious stone), for reasons I did not question.
The next day it was firery red. Shungites are said to radiate something, rumour has it that the Russians have their underground bases´s walls tiled with shungite to screen something or other. I did not question the kind of "red".
Interesting in any event.
She is very cat-o-phil and thought her cat needs some to she puts a little into the cat´s water bowl, where she keeps a shungite (semi precious stone), for reasons I did not question.
The next day it was firery red. Shungites are said to radiate something, rumour has it that the Russians have their underground bases´s walls tiled with shungite to screen something or other. I did not question the kind of "red".
Interesting in any event.
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Colloidal Gold Production / Re: Source for Gold Chloride in Europe
« Last post by aquataur on April 06, 2024, 04:32:01 PM »Thanks.
This sounds like you can choose between the Rolls Royce and the Mercedes.
As cfnisbet says somewhere (which made me laugh)
Extrapolating the prices (mostly for dry substances) for a comparable product leads us into the stratosphere.
I have one last straw in my hands, but it looks like getting wired.
Which is no problem.
This sounds like you can choose between the Rolls Royce and the Mercedes.
As cfnisbet says somewhere (which made me laugh)
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The electrolysis method is only for the heathens who live in the badlands over the pond (like me).
Extrapolating the prices (mostly for dry substances) for a comparable product leads us into the stratosphere.
I have one last straw in my hands, but it looks like getting wired.
Which is no problem.
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Colloidal Gold Production / Re: Source for Gold Chloride in Europe
« Last post by kephra on April 06, 2024, 02:59:28 PM »...Yes I have.
Kephra has mentioned repeatedly, that the electrolysis method produces a less good result.
What does that mean exactly?
Gold Chloride Method
Easiest for those who can access gold chloride
Exact ppm known
Scalable to high ppm
Little residual unwanted sodium
Very fast production
Little equipment required
Electrolysis Method
For those who cannot access gold chloride
Unknown ppm
Not scalable to high ppm
More excess sodium
Slow production
Most equipment required
High current needed (silver generator too weak)
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Colloidal Gold Production / Re: Source for Gold Chloride in Europe
« Last post by aquataur on April 06, 2024, 10:32:15 AM »sometimes, when things just don´t seem to work out a certain way, a feeling creeps in that it is not meant to happen that way.
I have a gold coin and can have it rolled out to wire by the jeweller. I have everything else needed for electrolysis.
Kephra has mentioned repeatedly, that the electrolysis method produces a less good result.
What does that mean exactly?
I have a gold coin and can have it rolled out to wire by the jeweller. I have everything else needed for electrolysis.
Kephra has mentioned repeatedly, that the electrolysis method produces a less good result.
What does that mean exactly?
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Colloidal Gold Production / Source for Gold Chloride in Europe
« Last post by aquataur on April 05, 2024, 07:54:14 PM »I could see some use for colloidal gold and I looked into this branch of the forum.
Unfortunately, the searche engines do some filtering, so I don´t see anything outside of Austria and Germany.
There are the usual world-wide companies like Fisher Science that sell Gold(III)-chlorid (red crystals) at prohibitive prices. There is Carl Roth selling Tetrachlorogold(III)-säure Trihydrat, and I have seen Gold-I-chloride, whatever the difference may be.
I understand that you dilute the powder to make a 1% liquid.
Morphisto.at sells gold cloride 1% for clinical analysis, at ca. 400 Euros for 100ml. They do not specify the purity. This price is about 4 times the price Kephra quotes somewhere here, although this is a few years old.
One source littlehouseofpyro (who use this substance for gold toning of b/w photographs) finally has comparable prices for 1% solution at ca. 50 Euros per 50ml. They of course do not tell any purity.
Edit: I wrote to them and asked. Answer yet to come.
They also have 5% and 10% solutions.
I am a bit confused.
Unfortunately, the searche engines do some filtering, so I don´t see anything outside of Austria and Germany.
There are the usual world-wide companies like Fisher Science that sell Gold(III)-chlorid (red crystals) at prohibitive prices. There is Carl Roth selling Tetrachlorogold(III)-säure Trihydrat, and I have seen Gold-I-chloride, whatever the difference may be.
I understand that you dilute the powder to make a 1% liquid.
Morphisto.at sells gold cloride 1% for clinical analysis, at ca. 400 Euros for 100ml. They do not specify the purity. This price is about 4 times the price Kephra quotes somewhere here, although this is a few years old.
One source littlehouseofpyro (who use this substance for gold toning of b/w photographs) finally has comparable prices for 1% solution at ca. 50 Euros per 50ml. They of course do not tell any purity.
Edit: I wrote to them and asked. Answer yet to come.
They also have 5% and 10% solutions.
I am a bit confused.