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Offline Dean

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Re: Colloidal Silver Calculator
« Reply #15 on: December 12, 2017, 08:05:10 AM »
Glad to help,

Please do check all your choices against your own logic and requirements.
If you are going to use it regularly then you'll be the first so make sure you are
happy that all the calcs / volumes/ quantities / concentrations and workflow.

Also, if anyone else wants to review, comment, edit, make suggestions then please do post.

Think of it as RC1 / Beta version  ;D

If stuff seems wrong, it may well be the case!  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

(Would love to get the blood volume worked in to the dose calculator so if anyone has the correction to the calculation that makes the work then be my guest !!)
« Last Edit: December 12, 2017, 08:30:15 AM by Dean »

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Re: Colloidal Silver Calculator
« Reply #16 on: May 23, 2021, 05:33:01 PM »
Hi all,
I share this calculator in order to test it.
Can you tell me if it is useful or has any error?

Regards!!  ;)

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Re: Colloidal Silver Calculator
« Reply #17 on: May 23, 2021, 07:15:56 PM »
Haven't tried it yet but just so its stated, here are the formulas I've gleaned from this forum and Kephra's notes over the years.

Gelatine (mg):
   PPM * <milliliters> / [160...80 ]

Karo (1:1 in vodka - drops):
   PPM * <milliliters> / 2000

Maltodextrin (mg):
   PPM * <liters> * 14.194

Glucose (mg):
   PPM * <liters> * 0.8335

Cell voltage minimum requirement vs. electrode spacing
   4.33 * spacing (inches) + 3.5

Faraday's Law (minutes to run cell to desired PPM)
   PPM * <liters> * 15 / <cell current(milliamps)>

Silver Oxide Solubility in water (Temp(F) vs solubility)
        75F   -> 21-22PPM
        150F -> approx 40PPM

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Re: Colloidal Silver Calculator
« Reply #18 on: August 28, 2021, 07:29:35 PM »
You can use Faradays law of Electrolysis:     

at 25mA for 20ppm the formula is: 1x 20 (ppm) x 15=300/25=12 minutes brewing time
at 10mA for 20ppm the formula is: 1x 20 (ppm) x 15=300/10=30 minutes brewing time

at 25mA for 100ppm the formula is: 1 x 100 (ppm) x 15=1500/25=60 minutes brewing time
at 10mA for 100ppm the formula is: 1 x 100 (ppm) x 15= 1500/10=150 minutes brewing time

study the formula...the only changes are the ppm and mA..  Simple

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Re: Colloidal Silver Calculator
« Reply #19 on: August 29, 2021, 03:45:53 AM »
Look at my post. The Faraday's law equation is:

PPM * <liters> * 15 / <cell current(milliamps)>

The only thing that doesn't change is the constant 15. Every other parameter depends on what you're making, how much water you're using, what current you're running at where none of these is a constant.

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Re: Colloidal Silver Calculator
« Reply #20 on: April 21, 2022, 06:21:29 PM »
Hi all,
I share this calculator in order to test it.
Can you tell me if it is useful or has any error?

Regards!!  ;)
Thanks for sharing your calculator llau
It appears to work well except I think the computed "Time of preparation" isn't correct.
For 250ml at 320ppm using 15 ma I'm calculating that it should be 80 minutes not 800.

Thanks

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Re: Colloidal Silver Calculator
« Reply #21 on: April 21, 2022, 06:51:53 PM »
Yes, 80 minutes at 15ma in 250ml water.  Not 800 minutes.
There is the unknown and the unknowable.  It's a wise man who knows the difference.

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Re: Colloidal Silver Calculator
« Reply #22 on: April 22, 2022, 07:54:16 PM »
I've really come to appreciate this calculator from llau.
The obvious care and effort put into it's development is impressive.
I don't know if llau is still active on the forum but I offer a big thank you for this excel spreadsheet and find it really helpful.
I've edited it to work acurately when set to it's English format and attached for others.
I urge members to take it for a spin.  :)

Changes I've made to it...
Fixed processing time to be accurate.
Fixed calculation for "silver type" to work when set to the English format
   No longer works in Spanish
Translated to comments/explanations to English.
Added calculation for gelatin powder using mg.
   No longer works in Spanish
Minor content fitting for text in cells

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Re: Colloidal Silver Calculator
« Reply #23 on: April 23, 2022, 11:16:55 AM »
Hi,
I'm making the version 45 ;D
I will review your modificacions..

Thanks for your inputs!

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Re: Colloidal Silver Calculator
« Reply #24 on: April 23, 2022, 02:18:13 PM »
Hi,
I'm making the version 45 ;D
I will review your modificacions..

Thanks for your inputs!

Hi llau!
Thank you for sharing your calculator with us.  :)
Last night I made a few more modifications.
Fixed gender recognition for female vs male when in English format and re-worded a few messages in English.
I've attached the revised spreadsheet.



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Re: Colloidal Silver Calculator
« Reply #25 on: April 23, 2022, 03:54:21 PM »
I also changed the format so you can make any ppm you want up to 640ppm

So, the only other thing I'm seeing that either needs fixing or maybe just needs better explanation is the calculated "Max. dose per day (ml)". The "1 dose every 6h (ml)" just uses the value from "Max dose" divided by 4 so no worries there.
Maybe I'm just not understanding your calculation...
  "Calculation made for an oral intake in milliliters, assuming only 50% absorption in blood. The objective is to reach a concentration of 2ppm's in blood, with a Weight / Volume ratio in blood of 7%."

I've attached a picture of the values I'm using.
Strength (ppm's) = 20
Gender = Male
Blood Volume = 4.4

Calculated value for "AG per day (mg)" =  18.2 mg (This looks to be correct)
Calculated value for "Max. dose per day (ml)" = 200.4ml (This looks really low to me, shouldn't this value be 910ml ?)

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Re: Colloidal Silver Calculator
« Reply #26 on: April 23, 2022, 04:13:04 PM »
I have reduced the dose, because with that dose it is more than enough for common illnesses.  For serious illnesses you can ingest more.
As soon as I can I will share the latest version with significant changes.

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Re: Colloidal Silver Calculator
« Reply #27 on: April 23, 2022, 07:34:18 PM »
Looking at the dosage example.png:
20mg is not 300ug
Maltoddextrin does not need to display tenths as it is not critical and very few of us can measure to that accuracy.
Max dose per day (mg) 18.2   ... Who says?  Nonone actually knows the maximum dose.
Max dose per day 200.4 (ml).... No, math is wrong.
Dessert spponfuls 5.0 ... What?  Teaspoons, Soup spoons, and Tablespoons are common (5,10,15ml)
Ag per dose (ug) 501.1  ... No, math is wrong.  Why show micrograms at all?
Ppm initial water 0.6 ... Why show this?
Time of preparation days ... Why show this?  Who has a clock calibrated in percentage of days?  Who is going to process longer than a day?
There is the unknown and the unknowable.  It's a wise man who knows the difference.

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Re: Colloidal Silver Calculator
« Reply #28 on: April 23, 2022, 09:29:45 PM »
Looking at the dosage example.png:
20mg is not 300ug
Maltoddextrin does not need to display tenths as it is not critical and very few of us can measure to that accuracy.
Max dose per day (mg) 18.2   ... Who says?  Nonone actually knows the maximum dose.
Max dose per day 200.4 (ml).... No, math is wrong.
Dessert spponfuls 5.0 ... What?  Teaspoons, Soup spoons, and Tablespoons are common (5,10,15ml)
Ag per dose (ug) 501.1  ... No, math is wrong.  Why show micrograms at all?
Ppm initial water 0.6 ... Why show this?
Time of preparation days ... Why show this?  Who has a clock calibrated in percentage of days?  Who is going to process longer than a day?
Valuable feedback Kephra.
Thanks!

I'm looking forward to the updated version from llau when it's ready.
I'm excited about this being a great tool and a means to double check our calculations. :)

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Re: Colloidal Silver Calculator
« Reply #29 on: April 24, 2022, 12:52:50 PM »
Hi,
Attached the last modification.  8)