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Salt Test
« on: October 13, 2018, 03:22:44 PM »
Here are some samples... 500 milliliter beaker were used to make ionic silver. Then divided into 100 mililiters to make metalic silver.
İn order of ===>  1(heat)  2(1/10 dw/glucose syrp 1 drop)  3(1/1 deionized w/glucose syrp 1 drop)  4(150 mg maltodextrin)  5(1/10 deionized w/glucose syrp 1 drop then added 20 mg vegetable gelatine).
Added 1/4 tsp rock salt and stirred. :D Sorry for bad english and inexperience.
« Last Edit: October 14, 2018, 08:04:31 PM by Sword »

Offline chrisflhtc

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Re: Salt Test
« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2018, 12:08:11 AM »
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Re: Salt Test
« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2018, 07:10:36 AM »
İt was a salt test for capping agents. All of these has good yellow color before adding salt. ??? Did i get it wrong? Im sorry if this is the wrong board for my topic.
Thanks for the answers.
« Last Edit: October 15, 2018, 07:20:39 AM by Sword »

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Re: Salt Test
« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2018, 08:17:24 AM »
So if I understood correctly, all of those samples that appear as clear water or almost clear water used to be yellow and then you added salt to them to test them and then they turned clear? The reason you did this was to test to see if they were capped? I would say that none of your samples were capped and were only reduced from ionic silver to colloidal silver so when you added the salt to the reduced colloidal silver, you basically destroyed it since there was no actual capping agent used in your process that I could see.

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Re: Salt Test
« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2018, 11:50:02 AM »
My purpose was to show the reaction of capping agents with salt. Reducers and herbal gelatin has weak protection but animal gelatine (no picture above) is useful. I couldn't find a picture of the topics related to salt reaction in the forum. I took a picture of samples because of this reason. Sorry for bad english. I get support from google translate. 
« Last Edit: October 15, 2018, 11:55:22 AM by Sword »

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Re: Salt Test
« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2018, 06:08:04 PM »
Deep L is a slightly better translator.

https://www.deepl.com/translator

As far as I can tell, you used "reducing agents", but you did not use a "capping agent", so the yellow colloidal silver was destroyed. If any of your reducing agents had capping qualities, it is too weak of a capping agent to protect the metallic silver from agglomeration and destruction caused by the addition of salt.

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« Last Edit: October 15, 2018, 11:11:47 PM by Art »

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Re: Salt Test
« Reply #6 on: October 16, 2018, 12:10:59 PM »
Thanks for answer and link.

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Re: Salt Test
« Reply #7 on: October 17, 2018, 01:41:06 AM »
Thanks for answer and link.

Sword, you're first post mentioned 500ml of ionic silver then adding:

1(heat)
2(1/10 dw/glucose syrp 1 drop) 
3(1/1 deionized w/glucose syrp 1 drop) 
4(150 mg maltodextrin) 
5(1/10 deionized w/glucose syrp 1 drop then added 20 mg vegetable gelatine)

The only one from that list that would stand a chance in a salt test would be the gelatine but given that you are using vegetable gelatine, I don't know how well that would cap the reduced silver anyway.