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Offline Kephra

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Greenish CS
« on: January 10, 2011, 01:54:29 pm »
I opened a new jug of distilled water, and every batch of CS I tried to make from it turned out olive greenish.



This is the same brand of distilled water I always buy, but apparently this gallon has a problem.
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Re: Greenish CS
« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2011, 06:00:06 pm »
So are you assuming it is no good? Will you use it for anything. Is there anyway to test it, ionic/metalic?
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Re: Greenish CS
« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2011, 06:50:52 pm »
Actually, I'm thinking it might be slightly better.  I measured the water with my TDS and it read 0.  Usually, it reads 2ppm.  So the water is at least as good as what I usually get.  I fire cleaned my electrodes, and triple rinsed my beaker before starting. 

Also if you look at the color chart I posted a while back, a little shift towards green should indicate a slightly smaller particle size.  I made that batch using maltodextrin as a reducing agent so there is no ionic content, and there is no cloudiness.  It has no taste either. 

I used it :)




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Re: Greenish CS
« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2011, 10:55:21 pm »
Couple of my last batches had similar color (I boiled them more than 15 min after the end of the process), and I've been using them as well.
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Re: Greenish CS
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2011, 01:30:03 pm »
i've just finished another batch of cs, using new jug of distilled water, its says ozonated and fluoride ions 0 ppm!!! Its the same source as the last jug.

i use flame to clean electrodes and note that they now have a white coating.

i used 2 drops of honey.

almost immediately the water took on a slight greenish tinge and had a tyndal effect, assuming its the honey.

i cooked it for 15 minutes after electrodes removed.

the finished water looks greenish without back light, in natural light or with light behind it is a light yellow, clear and clean.

no taste

 
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Re: Greenish CS
« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2011, 11:17:53 am »
The greenish cast disappeared from the one remaining batch after a day.  It turned into the familiar yellow.  What did yours do?
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Re: Greenish CS
« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2011, 11:33:30 am »
It has remained the same.

I think i will try to find some non-ozonated water and see if that may be the cause.
« Last Edit: January 12, 2011, 12:16:07 pm by bsilverman444 »
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Re: Greenish CS
« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2011, 08:43:15 pm »
Here is mine...you be the judge. Unfortunately I didn't take any pictures before...
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Re: Greenish CS
« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2011, 01:21:56 pm »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kt171b5eMYI

the guy in this video uses 4 batteries + 9999 silver wire + 24 volt light bulb + distilled water (made by himself) and gets something strange wich falls on the bottom of the glass. What is your opinion on this video? Does he makes something wrong? (besides not heating the water)
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Re: Greenish CS
« Reply #9 on: January 19, 2011, 01:56:59 pm »
My opinion is that the guy does not have a clue.  The water contains a lot of salt, otherwise the light bulb would not light when he connected the batteries.  The white stuff falling off the anode is most likely silver chloride. 
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Re: Greenish CS
« Reply #10 on: January 23, 2011, 07:48:18 pm »
Today, I've made two batches, the first one was crystal clear. After the first batch, I just poured water into the beaker without washing it and the result was a bit murky CS.
Here are picks of the first and second batch...
Kephra, why not washing beaker would produce such a difference and why it lost the clarity? The second batch looks a bit more concentrated.
« Last Edit: January 23, 2011, 09:58:19 pm by silverFalcon »
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Re: Greenish CS
« Reply #11 on: January 24, 2011, 04:01:21 am »
Can the distilled water "go bad"?
I have some distilled water made by my father with his small alcohool instalation.
It was made in november. For how long can I keep it before it "goes bad"?
Is there an estimate life shelf of the distilled water? Maby this is one of the reasons
the CS turns green.
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Re: Greenish CS
« Reply #12 on: January 24, 2011, 07:53:54 am »
SilverFalcon,

Can you give me more details?
Did you clean the anode between batches?
Was the water up to temperature when you started the second batch?

I find it unnecessary to wash my flask between batches, but I do clean my anode. 


Naropa,

Distilled water does not go bad.  It can become contaminated though if not stored properly (clean, sealed jug).
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Re: Greenish CS
« Reply #13 on: January 24, 2011, 10:27:56 am »
I did clean anode, and the beaker was just a bit yellowish, everything else the same. I started the process when the water started bubbling, at the boiling point. During these batches I was using 30V/0.83 power supply for 30 to 40 min, then, since I don't have current regulator, I switched to batteries. Other than that, nothing unusual.
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Re: Greenish CS
« Reply #14 on: January 24, 2011, 11:42:24 am »
Well, I cant really say without more info, except that it looks like the second batch is overcooked. 
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